Thursday, November 16, 2006

Renteria vs Cabrera

WEEI (actually its Glenn "fat b******" Ordway most of the time), has been beating up on Theo the last couple of days. One of the common gripes they have is that Theo totally blew the Renteria signing, he didn't do his homework yada yada yada. Well, I went to the Day by Day database at Baseball Musings and pulled up their career numbers.

There are a couple of things that I remember before the Renteria signing:

  1. Cabrera kept on saying that he wanted Renteria money
  2. Renteria was the top rated shortstop on the open market
  3. The fans wanted Orlando to stay
  4. Renteria was the gold glove shortstop of the NL.

So, lets take a look at their numbers when you compare them side by side:

Renteria vs Cabrera 1st 3 years of their careers
PlayerYear(s)B. Avg.G. StartedABRunsHits2b3bhrRBIBBK's
Renteria1996 - 98.288381156523745057812114126254
Cabrera1999-2001.259378143015937089123519086120

Renteria had a BA 20 points higher, scored 1/3 more runs, had 80 more hits and 40 more walks. Cabrera was only better in the power numbers and his strike out rate was lower.

Now lets look at the 5 years immediately before the signing.

Renteria vs Cabrera 2000 - 2004
PlayerYear(s)B. Avg.G. StartedABRunsHits2b3bhrRBIBBK's
Renteria00 - 04.2937272772405812171760388255339
Cabrera00 - 04.27074628553447701941361349207253

Again we see higher batting average, runs hits, RBI and walks. Cabrera did better on the power numbers (except HR's). The only area that Orlando really beat Edgar was in the strike outs. If I am Theo and I have a player who is demanding Renteria number but isn't putting up Renteria numbers, don't I go for Renteria? Why, settle for second when you can have 1st?

So, so far I haven't seen anything that makes me want Orlando over Renteria. So, let's look at their 2004 numbers, maybe we'll find something there?

Renteria vs Cabrera 2004
PlayerYear(s)B. Avg.G. StartedABRunsHits2b3bhrRBIBBK's
Renteria2004.2871485868416837010723978
Cabrera2004.2641586187416338310623954

Well, no luck there as Edgar has the higher average, more runs, more hits, almost even in doubles, same number of home runs and walks, but has more RBI's. Now if you look at these numbers really hard, it even appears that this is a normal type of year for Renteria.

To sum up my feelings, Theo would have been foolish to have not gone after Edgar. 20 / 20 hindsight showed that Edgar couldn't handle the Boston pressure but you couldn't have been sure of that before hand. So, drop this Renteria crap, Theo made a decision based on good solid reasoning and I am tired of hearing how he screwed up by not going after Orlando.

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