Renteria vs Cabrera
WEEI (actually its Glenn "fat b******" Ordway most of the time), has been beating up on Theo the last couple of days. One of the common gripes they have is that Theo totally blew the Renteria signing, he didn't do his homework yada yada yada. Well, I went to the Day by Day database at Baseball Musings and pulled up their career numbers.
There are a couple of things that I remember before the Renteria signing:
- Cabrera kept on saying that he wanted Renteria money
- Renteria was the top rated shortstop on the open market
- The fans wanted Orlando to stay
- Renteria was the gold glove shortstop of the NL.
So, lets take a look at their numbers when you compare them side by side:
Player | Year(s) | B. Avg. | G. Started | AB | Runs | Hits | 2b | 3b | hr | RBI | BB | K's |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Renteria | 1996 - 98 | .288 | 381 | 1565 | 237 | 450 | 57 | 8 | 12 | 114 | 126 | 254 |
Cabrera | 1999-2001 | .259 | 378 | 1430 | 159 | 370 | 89 | 12 | 35 | 190 | 86 | 120 |
Renteria had a BA 20 points higher, scored 1/3 more runs, had 80 more hits and 40 more walks. Cabrera was only better in the power numbers and his strike out rate was lower.
Now lets look at the 5 years immediately before the signing.
Player | Year(s) | B. Avg. | G. Started | AB | Runs | Hits | 2b | 3b | hr | RBI | BB | K's |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Renteria | 00 - 04 | .293 | 727 | 2772 | 405 | 812 | 171 | 7 | 60 | 388 | 255 | 339 |
Cabrera | 00 - 04 | .270 | 746 | 2855 | 344 | 770 | 194 | 13 | 61 | 349 | 207 | 253 |
Again we see higher batting average, runs hits, RBI and walks. Cabrera did better on the power numbers (except HR's). The only area that Orlando really beat Edgar was in the strike outs. If I am Theo and I have a player who is demanding Renteria number but isn't putting up Renteria numbers, don't I go for Renteria? Why, settle for second when you can have 1st?
So, so far I haven't seen anything that makes me want Orlando over Renteria. So, let's look at their 2004 numbers, maybe we'll find something there?
Player | Year(s) | B. Avg. | G. Started | AB | Runs | Hits | 2b | 3b | hr | RBI | BB | K's |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Renteria | 2004 | .287 | 148 | 586 | 84 | 168 | 37 | 0 | 10 | 72 | 39 | 78 |
Cabrera | 2004 | .264 | 158 | 618 | 74 | 163 | 38 | 3 | 10 | 62 | 39 | 54 |
Well, no luck there as Edgar has the higher average, more runs, more hits, almost even in doubles, same number of home runs and walks, but has more RBI's. Now if you look at these numbers really hard, it even appears that this is a normal type of year for Renteria.
To sum up my feelings, Theo would have been foolish to have not gone after Edgar. 20 / 20 hindsight showed that Edgar couldn't handle the Boston pressure but you couldn't have been sure of that before hand. So, drop this Renteria crap, Theo made a decision based on good solid reasoning and I am tired of hearing how he screwed up by not going after Orlando.
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